Best Places to Work 2017: BLM Improves Rankings

Thanks to Andy’s closer look I have updated this post, which originally said that the BLM had pulled ahead of the FS, but actually the FS has not been posted yet.

I always compare it to the BLM, which has a similar mission, and was 60.1 this year. BLM went up 4.3 points last year. I wonder if they did something workforce-wise, or ??? Many of the individual categories went up, as you can see in this chart, so it seems like something real is going on… ideas?

We’ll have to wait and how the FS did.


  1. Related to this, you just gotta love the Department of Interior’s Secretary Zinke tooting his own horn!

    The Secretary sent out a press release titled, “Interior Jumps into the Top Ten Best Places to Work.”

    Wow! Top 10!

    Oh, wait, they are in 9th place out of a total of 18 agencies. So, in other words they are in the Top 10 while also being one place from being in the bottom half!

    Like so many things with this Administration, and Secretary Ryan Zinke, it’s always about style over substance. Check out this great “tell” at the end of big feature on Zinke from Outside Magazine:

    As Zinke and I casted over the ice-cold water, I noticed something funny about his setup. He kept struggling to strip line out of the bottom of the reel. For a while, I thought he was simply having trouble concentrating on our conversation while casting. No, there was something wrong, and when I asked him to stand for a portrait, I finally saw what the problem was. He had rigged his reel backward, so that the line was coming out of the top of the reel. Every so often when he went to strip line out, he would grasp air where the line should’ve been.

    Seems like an inconsequential thing, but in Montana, it’s everything.

          • Zinke also did try and run for governor in Montana in 2012 and didn’t even make it out of the primary. Also, over 200,000 people in Montana voted against Zinke when he ran for Congress last time. That race was against Denise Juneau. Just pointing out the fact that Denise is a Native American woman who’s openly gay. None of those facts bother me at all, but there is certainly plenty of racism against Native Americans and homophobia in Montana.

            The guy (Gianforte) who replaced Zinke in the U.S. House literally body slammed and assaulted a reporter the night before the special election. Gianforte plead guilty to that, but he was still elected our congressperson. I’m not sure that anything “is too outre” for some Montana voters, especially if you have that magic “R” after your name. Heck, we’ll see if anything “is too outre” for the voters of Alabama.

            And speaking of “too outre” should I paste below some of the statements made about women by the President of the United States? Defending politicians as perhaps not being to “outre” based on winning an (s)election doesn’t really count for too much in my mind.

            • I was just responding to the hyperbole in the Outside writers statement “Seems like an inconsequential thing, but in Montana, it’s everything.”

              And because you mentioned women, I don’t fish, like many women (25% of anglers are women based on 2006 FWS numbers). So I wouldn’t be putting on any lines frontwise, backward, or sideways, nor would I even be out there with the writer. In his attempt to be snarky (the current American sport?) the author implied that real Montanans know how to rig fishing lines or whatever.

              That’s one of the problems with snark; people get so absorbed in the delight of their writing, they don’t always think about who else gets spattered with the snark spray.

              • With some much real hyperbole in America today, especially related to politics, I find it odd that you consider this to be an example of such.

                “Seems like an inconsequential thing, but in Montana, it’s everything.”

                I mean, nobody by Ryan Zinke himself made Zinke out to be the great outdoorsman and the protector of Teddy Roosevelt’s legacy. He has claimed to be an avid fly-fisher, so this has nothing to do with people like yourself, or myself, who also don’t know how to fly fish, or correctly rig a fly-fishing line.

                I think the implication from the author was that real Montanans who fly fish actually know how to fly fish. But whatever really. No snark or hyperbole coming from Secretary Zinke or President Trump, so might as well go after this author.

  2. I am not surprised that the BLM ranked higher than the FS – for years when I worked in a place where there was a lot of BLM land (and a lot of FS) there was a rather large one-way outflux from the FS to the BLM – and after folks transferred they would tell us how great it was – mostly because they had a promotion and did not have the insane workload that they had in the Forest Service because the BLM staffing was more appropriate for the work load.

    • BLM staffing is actually less than forest service. it has fewer employees per acre than the forest service. for example, a “PD” forester in the BLM does the work of the following people in the forest service: forestry program lead (budget, hiring, admin), sale administration, pre-sale forester, silviculturist, forest technician, NEPA writing and implementation. so where as the forest service would have a staff of at minimum 3 people on a given district with a program (likely more) the PD foresters do the work of all of those positions. a PD forester is a forester outside of oregon. BLM forestry programs in oregon are more similar to the forest service with regards to staffing.

    • Andy is right.. I looked at the link and it said 2017 index, but after he pointed that out, I found this on the site that says the Forest Service is not in yet.

      “The Best Places to Work in the Federal Government rankings, produced by the Partnership for Public Service since 2003, are based almost entirely on data from the Office of Personnel Management’s Federal Employee Viewpoint Survey.  In late October 2017, OPM informed the Partnership that it was reviewing its data privacy policy and would only provide information on agencies and work units with 300 or more survey respondents as opposed to 50 respondents. As a result of this decision, 21 small agencies and 165 subcomponents are excluded from the rankings released on Dec. 6, 2017. On December 5, OPM provided data for the missing agencies. The new data will be analyzed and revised rankings for small agencies and subcomponents will be released in early 2018.

      Below is the list of agencies and subcomponents that were featured in the 2016 Best Places to Work rankings. Employee and workplace data for the organizations highlighted in yellow are not yet available for 2017 public release because of OPM’s decision.”

      The odd thing about this is that 50 respondents doesn’t seem like enough to even bother to calculate anything out of 25,000 or so (couldn’t find number easily, got this one here)

      In retrospect, I should have been more suspicious of the missing categories for 2017. So stay tuned!

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