We served national forests under both parties, and know today our public lands are in danger (Opinion)
Divesting our public lands from public ownership would be a grievous error
But maybe the authors didn’t select the title or the tagline.
Collectively, we have over 200 years of experience in public land management and have served as U.S. Forest Service chiefs under both Republican and Democratic administrations. We are adamant that divesting our public lands from public ownership would be a grievous error. We encourage all Americans to support the public servants who work for you and, most importantly, the public lands that belong to all of us and define us as Americans.
There’s the “divesting” thing again. Some of us are still exhausted from the last decades of hearing about this.. for example this Center for American Progress Action write-up from 2015. It, of course, mentions the ever-unpopular Sagebrush Rebellion.
The idea that the federal government should transfer ownership of public lands to state governments or sell them off to private interests has percolated on the conservative fringe for decades. The concept briefly gained attention during the Sagebrush Rebellion—an anti-government movement in the West in the 1980s—but has not been able to overcome criticism that it is unconstitutional, fiscally irresponsible, and environmentally reckless.
Back to the op-ed:
This year started with the catastrophic fires in southern California. It is now only spring, and already we have an active fire season across parts of the southeast. Is this a time to dismiss thousands of trained firefighters? Most U.S. Forest Service employees have collateral firefighting jobs and are called on as fire season escalates.
We believe that the current administration’s abusive description of career federal employees is an unforced and, frankly, unforgettable error. These fired employees, we know from experience, represent the best of America. Many gave up other potentially financially lucrative jobs to serve the public interest, many were military veterans. To see them treated the way they have been over the past few months is incompetence at best and mean-spirited at worst.
We believe that the current administration’s abusive description of career federal employees is an unforced and, frankly, unforgettable error.
Is this really about FS employees or a more general concern about Administration statements? What exactly do the Chiefs mean by “unforgettable”? “incompetence at best and mean-spirited at worst”.
There was the random firing of some 3,400 probationary Forest Service employees, some with years of experience as seasonal firefighters, others with jobs ranging from managing prescribed fire and fuel reduction, timber sale layout, fish and wildlife habitat improvement to campground maintenance. This was followed by a court order to reinstate the fired employees, who were only soon to be fired again. Additionally, there was the buyout and retirement incentives of another 3,000 employees.
I am totally with them on the probationary employees, but on the other hand, the FS had hired more than they could afford, as we’ve described in other posts. So will future RIFs be “non-random?” will that be OK? Again, this takes a twist (one that I’ve heard before) about buyouts and incentives, which to me are a different kettle of fish. For one thing, they are voluntary. I don’t think that we can say “buyouts are disrespectful” when we didn’t say that for previous buyouts. In fact, some of us (including me) were told the FS would be better off if we would retire, and make room for fresh ideas and give a chance for the next generation to flourish. Kind of like overstory removal of trees with decreasing vigor.
While the exact numbers are changing daily, the chaotic approach resulted in many of the top leaders, including the Forest Service chief and another dozen top agency leaders to leave or be demoted. Further, major reductions in the workforce are expected. The administration has asked USDA to significantly cut more funding and people.
For me, if I had been SES, it would be all about pay retention, not demotion. GS-15 jobs can be more fun than SES, as far as I’ve observed. Not as much power, but not as much stress. And I would guess that there are many folks out there equally capable and desirous of being SES, given the chance. Unless things have changed, we always had pretty stiff competition for Forest Supervisors and above, and there are relatively few SES positions in the FS (and will possibly be fewer with consolidations).
This is occurring while a recent Executive Order calls for the immediate expansion of timber harvest from the National Forests and other federal public lands.
If the White House continues to dismiss the employees who manage the campgrounds, visitor information centers, trails systems for hiking, biking, horseback riding and motorized uses, facilities will have to be closed. The summer vacation season is just around the corner.
Permit holders for animal grazing, oil and gas leases, logging and mining activities will also be affected. It appears the intent is to create a number of crises for the millions of Americans who use the national forests and grasslands for their livelihoods and for their recreation.
How do we discern the intent of the Admin? If they want to reduce employees at the DOE, for example, does that mean that they want to create crises for users of energy? or CDC and public health?
And I believe the Secretary of Agriculture said that efforts to reduce would focus on middle managers (shades of Clinton Administration!) and administrative functions. I’m sure many folks including elected officials, who are probably giving their opinions to the Admin directly, don’t want any recreation, grazing, timber or other holdups.
Rural economies are intertwined with the uses on these lands, bringing millions of dollars to local economies.
Are these drastic actions the first steps toward crippling the agencies so they cannot carry out their Congressionally mandated mission? If so, they portend a cynical effort to divest and transfer federal public lands to the States and private interests.
Oh for Gifford’s sake! Here we go again with the standard privatization fear-mongering (as in above CAP 2015). States don’t want them, and the private dog (except for local housing) won’t hunt.
The national forests are public lands that are owned collectively by all U.S. Citizens and managed under the Multiple Use Sustained Yield Act and a host of other laws. These laws allow for responsibly managed oil and gas development, mining, timber harvest, as well as recreation development, untouched wilderness, and many other uses. Most importantly, they are the backyard of families that camp, hike, bike, cut firewood, ski, float rivers, hunt or fish on their public lands without “no trespassing” signs.
More than 60 million Americans get their drinking water from streams that flow from the 193 million acres of national forests. Truly, we have a federal public land system in the U.S. that serves us daily and is the envy of natural resource professionals around the world for the benefits realized by our citizens daily. Divesture of these precious lands, that belong to all citizens rich and poor, would be an irreparable tragedy.
The first Forest Service Chief Gifford Pinchot famously wrote, “Where conflicting interests must be reconciled, the question shall always be answered from the standpoint of the greatest good of the greatest number in the long run.” We believe the greatest good is keeping the National Forests and all federal public lands in the hands of all citizens for future generations.
It seems like the Chiefs are saying “don’t get rid of employees who provide important services.” I think the Administration probably agrees with that. Legally, though, they have to follow OPM procedures for RIF and VERA, which means that the outcome can’t be precisely controlled, as many of us have experienced in the past. Fortunately for the mission, if particularly knowledgeable and useful people retire, they can and do come back as Reemployed Annuitants, contractors, hired by partners/grantees, or via the ACES program.
We all support the National Forests, I think everyone here can agree. And yet, the Forest Service apparently has more employees than it can afford. The op-ed is arguing against selling public lands, which isn’t on the table. The writeup sounds like it was mostly Dombeck and associates, and the others signed on. Wouldn’t it be interesting, instead to hear what their desired solutions would be, given the situation? Here are some possibilities.
(1) No one should be RIFed or take early out, despite the fact that FS is over budget.(Every position is needed? I would say I don’t agree with that.
(2) We recognize the problem, but think a better way to reduce numbers would be to…. Keep everyone red-carded who has been on say…more than three fires in the past three years?
(3) Increased the budget to cover the recent hires? Keep everyone red-carded who has been on say…more than three fires in the past three years?
(4) The Admin should stop disrespecting employees by making negative statements. I don’t think the Chief or the Secretary is, so .. they would have to be more specific. There are other ways of disrespecting, possibly including pulling purchase cards?
(5) Temporaries are very important to summer field work, so the FS should find the money to hire them, even if it may be too late.
Vinegar or Honey?
In contrast to the Dombeck et al. op-ed, on X this morning I saw an open letter to Secretary Wright from various energy groups who all benefit from the DOE Loan Programs Office:
As budget and staffing decisions are weighed across the Department, we encourage the administration to ensure LPO remains fully equipped to carry out its mission. The office’s ability to underwrite and monitor large-scale energy projects depends on specialized technical staff and institutional capacity. Without them, the federal government risks slowing or stalling the diverse mix of energy projects that serve national priorities, such as new nuclear energy development for powering AI data centers—undermining investment certainty and weakening American competitiveness.
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These are precisely the kinds of projects the administration has championed: American-made, job-creating, pro-growth, and foundational to national strength and security.We respectfully urge you to preserve LPO’s robust financing capabilities. As your administration advances its energy and industrial agenda, maintaining the Loan Programs Office will be critical to delivering results.Thank you for your leadership and commitment to American energy excellence.
It’s quite a different tone (and audience) from the op-ed in the Denver Post. Recalling:
“Are these drastic actions the first steps toward crippling the agencies so they cannot carry out their Congressionally mandated mission?”
“current administration’s abusive description of career federal employees is an unforced and, frankly, unforgettable error.”
Maybe the Chiefs would be more likely to have their ideas considered by the new Administration by taking a less histrionic approach, and dealing directly with the Administration? Or maybe they are and this is a two-pronged approach? It would be easy to imagine rewriting the DOE letter to incorporate their/our concerns. They/we could write one to the current Chief and relate our concerns to the Chief’s stated priorities of “safety, active forest management, fire management and recreation.”
If I said “respect is a two-way street” you might say “this Admin should not be respected because…”, but I am a pragmatist. As the old saying says, “you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.” I think the authors of the DOE letter are obviously interested in procuring flies (loans). Not so sure about folks using vinegar.

