Share Your Own Experiences with RIFs

Tim asked this question:

Sharon et al— I’m curious how RIFs targeting the RO/WO could trickle down to districts. My understanding is bump & retreat means that RIFed RO people could potentially take jobs of folks in lower positions on the districts (in the same commuting area as the RO). Is that right? How widespread might this be?

I thought that this would be a good time for us oldsters to get our memory hard drives reconnected with our memories of RIF.  I think the last one was during the Clinton Administration.

“After all the rhetoric about cutting the size and cost of Government, our administration has done the hard work and made the tough choices,” Clinton said in a statement. “I believe the economy will be stronger, and the lives of middle class people will be better, as we drive down the deficit with legislation like this.”

The legislation was an outgrowth of Clinton’s National Performance Review, which launched in March 1993 with the slogan “Make Government Work Better and Cost Less.” Clinton appointed Vice President Al Gore to lead the review and issue a report within six months.

About 250 career civil servants worked on the review and created recommendations with agency employees.

Not everyone agreed with the Clinton-Gore initiative.

“There was opposition,” but union leaders supported reducing the power of middle managers, the target of most of the reductions, and the increased role of unions in bargaining, “so they felt this was an acceptable trade-off,” John M. Kamensky, National Performance Review deputy director, told PolitiFact.

But there were also Reagan RIFs

‘For every worker directly affected by a RIF, three to four more workers indirectly experienced career disruption,’ the study found.

The number of RIFs have dropped by 70 percent since they peaked in fiscal 1982.

Rep. Michael D. Barnes, D-Md., who co-chaired the task force, said the RIF policies are costing the government in morale, and ultimately failing to do what they were established to do — save the federal government money.

‘Our study tells us that no matter how you order or structure a RIF, it’s a bankrupt policy,’ he said.

Which is, of course, interesting to us today because what D Barnes said was a “bankrupt policy” was engaged in by the D Clinton Administration.

So here’s an opportunity to tell our own stories.   During the Reagan RIF, I was a GS-460-11 or 12 Area Geneticist (that’s another story).  I was told that a District Ranger with more time in grade in the commuting area could bump me.   I questioned that, saying by the same token, I could conceivably bump a District Ranger.  At the time, at least in R-6, folks were very particular about requirements for line officers. I don’t remember any women DRs at the time, for example. Apparently I did not meet the cultural requirements.  After I pointed this out, the talk went away, and I never knew what happened, but I didn’t get RIFed.

When I look at the OPM direction for RIF today it goes by..

1.tenure of employment (e.g., type of appointment);
2.veterans’ preference;
3.length of service; and
4.performance ratings.

Now I went to forestry school in the 70’s with many Vietnam-era Veterans, but I don’t remember that being talked about much at the time as a factor in RIF. Of course, my memories are hazy.
My point is, though, in my hazy memory, earlier RIFs were not particularly “thoughtful” as they played out through the OPM regulations and bumping. I see RIFs as more or less of a mechanical process, and while the media may focus on the intention (good=D, bad=R), the intention may not matter much after the button is pressed.

So I’m interested in hearing from people about their own experiences with RIFs. Probably most of the those RIFfed are not still around in our community, so we may not be able to hear their perspective.

So back to Tim’s question, I think it went by commuting area and series, and length of service, and don’t remember much beyond that.

Monday Forest Service Rumor Roundup

1. Purchasing card weirdness. Heard that each district gets only one purchasing card? And they have to pick one person.. who conceivably might go on fires, take vacation or get sick? This is the weirdest thing I’ve heard so far. Hopefully, this is a “new Admin” thing and will be shortly resolved. According to my sources, one Region has issued only 11 government purchasing cards. For the Region!

With AI, folks should be able to figure out if employees are spending on unusual or too many things.. if you wanted to take a look at purchasing, there would be many ways to slice it.   Sometimes getting desired work done requires loosening the leash.  I’m sure the Admin will figure this out.. the sooner the better, IMHO.

2. FS Intentions : Four Stages of Employee Reduction.  First, probationary, Second Fork in the Road, Third VERA, Fourth RIF.  The plan was due last Friday, but other rumors said it wasn’t turned in on time.the plan is to focus RIFs on mid to senior people in the WO and ROs.

For those of you who don’t know about VERA,

Voluntary Early Retirement Authority (VERA) allows agencies that are undergoing substantial restructuring, reshaping, downsizing, transfer of function, or reorganization to temporarily lower the age and service requirements in order to increase the number of employees who are eligible for retirement. The authority encourages more voluntary separations and helps the agency complete the needed organizational change with minimal disruption to the work force. By offering these short term opportunities, an agency can make it possible for employees to receive an immediate annuity years before they would otherwise be eligible.

The idea will be to reduce as few field staff as possible.

3. Following RIFs, restructuring will occur.  The priorities will be on the ground wildland fuels reduction, timber, and energy and minerals projects.  Of course, we old folks who have been through many restructuring exercises are immensely curious about the nature of this one. I’d still like to hear from someone who has seen what has gone to OPM.

The following two I heard only enough to get vague outlines and tried to put the pieces together from different people but perhaps with not much luck. Any additional clarification appreciated.

4. NEPA there is timeline for each agency to redo its NEPA regs in a year. This means that the FS probably won’t change many things (it should be noted that the folks customarily responsible for NEPA regs reside in the WO). I’ve heard of other NEPA and litigation intended improvements but not in enough detail to write about here. Others may have heard more.

5. Priorities are wildland fuels reduction timber, minerals and energy, and recreation. Rumor is that timber target is going up, in at least one Region.

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7. Funding is coming through to grantees, although possibly only funding toward money already spent by the NGOs. There was also an issue with the payment system that also could have led to delays in reimbursements.

6. Apparently when the FS had its first budget crisis last summer, they tried to get funds they had obligated to Keystones (which we think might be $400 mill) back.  We don’t know how much they got back, and how much is still obligated to partners to contract and hire people to do work.

It’s kind of interesting to me that the “grant funding information” cone of silence seems to apply regardless of Admin.  And in my contacts with folks at the Keystone groups, they aren’t talking either.  Of course, it’s all in flux so perhaps no one knows how it’s going nor how it will ultimately turn out.

More on What RO’s Do, and the Views of One Recreation Program Manager

Below I am posting a comment to the previous post on RO’s by Josh..

As I’ve said, the FS has had many efforts to cut costs (and focus on service delivery at the District level) over time.  Yesterday I was talking to someone who remembers the Transformation effort. He told me that the the group came up with the idea of having basically three RO-like entities for the country in terms of technical support, but actually continuing to have Regional Foresters and a few staff, mostly concerned about relationships, and not the rest of the things ROs do. Which I think are…

1. Provide technical expertise on how to do things

2. Be involved with budget allocation to Forests

3. Conduct activities that occur infrequently on forests (e.g., litigation prep)

4. Provide next level review, e.g. Objections and unit reviews.  About reviews, over my time in the FS they changed from being meaningful to being performative, both in R&D and in NFS; this was never more obvious than when we did a joint review with BLM who still took the concept seriously.  We in the Region ran the appeal/objection process, but all the folks doing the work were borrowed from Forests, although as I recall the Deputy RF decided on them.

5. Work on regional projects (e.g. Southern Rockies Lynx Amendment).

Conceivably Forest and District folks could be rounded up to do 5, but then that would be less work done at the Forest and District level.

If there were a simple answer, it probably would have already been done.

Anyway, I’d sure like to see the details of what the Transformation group came up with..

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Here’s one person’s experience of their RO.  I think the FS’s apparent inability to highlight recreation over time is one of the ongoing flaws in the system seemingly regardless of kind of Admin in place.

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I’ve been a Recreation and Wilderness program manager on a district for 22 years in R4. I can’t recall a time when I or many of my immediate colleagues had anything positive to say about many of the Regionals. Oh, individually I’ve had many solid working relationships that seemed to function as intended but the majority of the time it has seemed like the RO’s just been a major interfering pain in the ass. For the past 15 years now it’s gotten worse, with unresponsive, non-supportive staff at the RO doing who knows what, the Regions taking their cut of the budget for pet projects and doling out pittances to the Forests for budgets. For example, GAOA! One RO engineer got it in his head he wanted to be the guy with the big dollar prize project so he and he alone slapped a concept together for all of the back country airstrips in the region to get a massive upgrade. He operated in a black box of his own design, somehow got the funding then got in touch with the folks on the ground who actually managed and maintain many of these airstrips. Turns out not every single airstrip needed high dollar work like his project called for. Three years later we’re still attempting to sort out his mess and a year after this reality hit he left the Regional Office and handed his problem off to the next person up who ended up being some guy on a Forest within the Region.

We often say that the role of the Region is to facilitate the work on the Forests but in practice it seems more like roadblock due to power mongering or due to pet projects or interference due to egos who want credit or fear driven agendas masquerading as priorities such as the wildfire crisis strategy, which is now being wordsmithed.

Every few years the new Admin with help of the WO/RO rolls out a new shiny ball priority with an unfunded mandate for Recreation. Think 10-year Wilderness Stewardship Challenge. There has never been a well funded, direct focus on Recreation in my entire career. A few years ago Recreation seemed to be getting it’s due with a National program called Recreation as a Priority…we had hopes this would provide more manpower and more funding. It didn’t get a good rollout and a few years in many of us hadn’t heard bupkus, then things started to happen. We were standing up the temp to perm concept when it got entirely subsumed by every other resource area and before you knew it there was a massive hiring effort occurring forest service wide.
However due to it being wide open and less focused on recreation, it turned into a massive financial crisis.
The simple fact that the RO staff and budget officers didn’t draw a line in the sand and instead willingly walked the agency into this situation still blows my mind. Zero accountability.

The RO has played a pivotal role in setting all the Forests priorities including how fleet is administered. But now fleet eats 75% of my forest budget!! We can’t even right size rigs to programs because fleet is what we’re told by the RO. Its enough to make one sick. Now we currently face the new administration and the slapdash directives, terminations/reinstatements of the boots on the ground and a freeze on all external communication. Forest level EAs are being briefed all the way up to the WO and Dept level in order to determine if “controversy” exists and the project is alignment with the administrations goals. Insanity has peaked and I can’t see how the Regional Office does anything but make matters worse. They are currently tight lipped and not sharing any information about the coming RIF either.

I’m certainly not advocating for the dissolution of the Regional offices, but a hard look at performance and steering new expectations and standards would be welcome. I’m all for fixing what’s broke and solving problems, I’m a recreation practitioner, that’s what we do! But I don’t support a bull in a china shop approach either.

 

Sammy Roth on the Power Companies and Taxpayers Wildfire Prevention Funding Problem in California

John Thomas commented about power companies, wildfires, and ratepayers and I ran across this this morning. Sammy Roth of the LA Times used to be a reporter, and now his byline is “climate columnist” probably due to some of his op-ed like previous reporting on climate. With that caveat, it’s easy to read over climate-y asides (e.g. “with global warming speeding up”) and focus on the look at the mitigation funding problem.

A Coulson CH-47 Chinook helitanker funded by Southern California Edison drops fire retardant over a field during a 2023 demonstration in Irwindale. (Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

Uncomfortable truth time: The biggest reason California’s electric rates are rising so fast is that utility companies are spending billions of dollars each year to reduce the risk of catastrophic wildfires.

Does that mean Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric should spend less money trimming trees, burying power lines and funding night-flying Chinook helitankers?

That question is central to a raging debate in Sacramento over how to tame out-of-control utility bills. From 2019 through 2023, Edison, PG&E and SDG&E were collectively authorized to add $27 billion in wildfire-related costs to customer rates, according to the California Public Utilities Commission — 18% of their overall system costs.

Those wildfire-related costs caused bills to rise between 7% and 12% for the average residential customer — $24 per month for homes served by PG&E, $18 for Edison customers and $13 for SDG&E customers.

“The cost of doing nothing is enormous,” Assemblymember Cottie Petrie-Norris (D-Irvine), who chairs the Utilities and Energy Committee, said this month at an oversight hearing on utility wildfire spending.

Before the Eaton and Palisades fires devastated Los Angeles County, there was momentum among lawmakers to reduce bills by steering utilities away from burying electric lines — a surefire but expensive way to avoid ignitions during dry, windy conditions. Burying local distribution lines — which is much less expensive than burying larger-scale, higher-voltage transmission lines — can still cost $3 million to $5 million per mile.

After the recent infernos, though, the political pendulum may swing back toward undergrounding, no matter the costs — even though there are less-expensive, highly effective fire-avoidance tools, such as “fast-trip” technology that shuts off power lines almost instantaneously when its detects the potential for an ignition event.

“Not having any risk from ignition requires an insane amount of spending,” said Matthew Freedman, an attorney for the Utility Reform Network, a ratepayer watchdog group, in an interview.

When the “what if” happens, ADP prepares you for the “what’s next.”
We’ve seen a lot of changes in the work world. But an extra hour added to the day? Now that’s a new one.

Some losses can’t be measured in dollars and cents. Twenty-nine people died in the L.A. County fires.

Does that mean Edison, PG&E and SDG&E should be allowed to spend as much as possible to reduce fire risks — passing along those costs to ratepayers, often with an additional 10% profit margin for their investors?

No, definitely not.

But it does mean lawmakers and regulators face a terribly difficult balancing act as they scramble for solutions to the state’s affordability crisis, even as they look to protect Californians from worsening wildfires.

“This is a fiendishly difficult topic to try to come up with solutions,” Assemblymember Steve Bennett (D-Ventura), who chairs a subcommittee on climate change, said at this month’s oversight hearing.

The fiendishness stems partly from the fact that global warming — fueled by coal, oil and gas combustion — has raised the likelihood of destructive blazes, and partly from the fact that people built so many sprawling cities and towns in parts of California that were prone to wildfire even before climate change.

The situation has reached crisis levels since 2017, with California suffering its nine largest fires and also its four most destructive fires on record. Several of those conflagrations — including the 2018 Camp fire, which killed 85 people and largely destroyed the town of Paradise — were sparked by electrical infrastructure.

Budget-conscious lawmakers have responded by letting Edison, PG&E and SDG&E do most of the heavy lifting of reducing wildfire risk — in effect sticking those utilities’ ratepayers, rather than all taxpayers, with the bill.

Since 2019, the companies have spent roughly $3 billion per year on wildfire prevention. The money goes toward tasks such as inspecting equipment, trimming trees near electrical towers and installing “covered conductors” on power lines that make them less likely to spark if they hit a tree branch during a wind storm.

Edison, PG&E and SDG&E customers benefit from that work. But in many instances, so do millions of Californians who aren’t paying for it, including Los Angeles residents served by the L.A. Department of Water and Power.

One astonishing example: Since 2021, Edison customers have paid more than $100 million to help fund a fleet of state-of-the-art firefighting helicopters for the L.A., Orange and Ventura County fire departments. The helitankers are capable of working through the night and dumping massive amounts of water and retardant.

They’re available for use no matter how a fire started — even outside of Edison’s service territory.

“Even when fires escape initial attack and continue to burn out of control, the [Edison-funded fleet] has had its victories, including during the L.A. fires,” Orange County Fire Chief Brian Fennessy told lawmakers at the recent oversight hearing. The aircraft, he said, “helped save Brentwood live on television.”

Edison isn’t funding the helitankers solely out of the goodness of its heart: The more the utility can do to limit the damage from fires sparked by its equipment, the less damage to its bottom line. Edison executives have been reminded of that reality as the utility confronts dozens of lawsuits over the Eaton fire, which many victims believe was ignited by one of its transmission lines. State and local officials are still investigating the cause.

Regardless, Edison shouldn’t have to keep paying for the helitankers indefinitely — not when the utility’s millions of customers are bearing the costs, and when all Southern Californians are reaping the benefits.

And consider this: Even as Edison, PG&E and SDG&E spend $3 billion per year on fire prevention, state taxpayers as a whole typically spend just a few hundred million dollars per year, according to the Legislative Analyst’s Office. The burden of preventing fires is falling disproportionately on Edison, PG&E and SDG&E ratepayers.

That’s just not fair. Even if you don’t live in an area that’s at high risk of fire, you’re still probably breathing wind-borne smoke that’s terrible for your lungs and heart. You’re still dealing with the consequences of heat-trapping carbon pollution unleashed by burning forests, such as deadlier heat waves and more intense droughts.

And even if state officials want some Californians to pay more for fire prevention, electric rates are a terrible way to divvy up the costs. High utility bills disproportionately burden low-income and middle-class families, eating up a bigger chunk of their monthly budgets. Rising rates have hurt those households most of all.

The results are clear in the data: Nearly one in five Edison, PG&E and SDG&E customers are behind on their bills, according to the Public Utilities Commission. That’s more than 2.2 million customers, owing $769 on average.

The most straightforward solution would be for lawmakers to stop letting utilities do so much wildfire prevention and start paying for more of those projects out of the state budget. That way, the burden would fall on all Golden State taxpayers, not just Edison, PG&E and SDG&E customers — a much more equitable strategy, especially given California’s progressive income tax system, which requires higher earners to pay more.

Mohit Chhabra, a senior analyst for the Natural Resources Defense Council, supports that approach. In a recent report, he encouraged state officials to find funding sources other than electric rates for important programs — not only wildfire prevention, but also energy efficiency incentives and low-income utility bill discounts.

“Of course, it’s easier said than done,” Chhabra acknowledged in an interview.

Indeed, despite an initial $322-billion budget proposal from Gov. Gavin Newsom for next year, the governor and lawmakers face a giant juggling act of competing priorities. And unfortunately, climate rarely seems to rank high on the list, despite its importance to voters — and the existential threat posed by rising temperatures.

That dynamic was on display at the recent oversight hearing, as several lawmakers seemed hesitant to commit to spending more on wildfire prevention. At one point, Assemblymember Diane Papan (D-San Mateo) asked a PG&E executive, “Is there a way we can give some relief for ratepayers without turning to the taxpayers?”

Bennett, too, said he was “not convinced that we’ve made a good case to change things away from the ratepayer doing it.” He expressed encouragement that PG&E has said its rates should stabilize this year, and suggested that perhaps the skyrocketing electric rates of the last few years won’t continue.

“I hope we don’t have a knee-jerk — which is oftentimes what happens in the democratic process — a knee-jerk reaction to one problem, and then create another problem because we’re trying to fight that last thing,” he said.

If you ask me, that’s wishful thinking.

Maybe the last few years were as bad as it’s going to get, with residential rates increasing between 48% and 67% for PG&E, SDG&E and Edison customers from 2019 through 2023. But it’s hard to imagine this problem resolving itself. Not with global warming speeding up. Not with more than 150,000 miles of overhead wires crisscrossing a state home to tens of millions of fire-prone acres — and countless communities spread across those acres.

No, lawmakers and Newsom will have to own this one. Hard decisions lie ahead.

The problem, as Stanford University energy and climate scholar Michael Wara sees it, is that California “wants to spend as little money on wildfires as possible” — when in truth taxpayers are on the hook no matter what.

When I talked with Wara, he had just finished touring the Eaton fire burn zone in Altadena — a gut-wrenching experience. He listed a few of the ways Californians will be paying for the devastation for many years, including rebuilding costs, higher insurance premiums, healthcare for smoke inhalation, taxes that fund Cal Fire and more.

Some lawmakers may not want to burden taxpayers with more spending. But taxpayers are already burdened by the high cost of wildfires. Edison, PG&E and SDG&E ratepayers bear the additional cost of wildfire prevention.

“It’s the same people spending the money,” Wara said. “Taxpayers, ratepayers, insurance premium payers.”

The unavoidable reality is that wildfires are expensive, especially in an era of climate crisis. California will need to keep spending huge sums to lower the risk of ignitions, and to prepare for the fires that inevitably do ignite.

The politically difficult questions are who pays, how much they pay and what exactly they’re paying for. Is burying more power lines the answer? Or are there lower-cost solutions? What if those solutions involve blackouts?

It’s time for lawmakers to grapple with those questions. I’ll have a few suggestions in next Thursday’s column.

For more climate and environment news, follow @Sammy_Roth on X and @sammyroth.bsky.social on Bluesky.

I’ll post Sammy’s suggestions next week.

For Sale – half million acres of federal lands

 

La Citta Vita, Flickr

The ball is rolling on selling federal lands for housing with the creation of a task force that would identify federal land that would be suitable for housing.  The task force would be run by the Departments of the Interior and Housing and Urban Development.

“The aim of Trump’s new task force is to identify the land parcels suitable for building. It will then transfer or lease them out to public-housing authorities, nonprofits or local governments to develop homes.  The land might occasionally be sold to private developers, according to a HUD representative.  The federal agencies would determine that on a “case-by-case basis” in coordination with the local government.”

Really?  One might suspect this money-grubbing Administration would sell the most valuable land and to the highest bidder.  Especially if this is going to be used to finance its sovereign wealth fund.

No mention here of whether the Forest Service or national forest lands would be involved – it could be limited to lands not otherwise “designated,” including national forests.  The other interesting thing is this:

“Developing even 512,000 acres of the Bureau of Land Management’s lots could yield between three million and four million new homes across western states such as Nevada, Utah, California and Arizona, according to a preliminary analysis by the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington, D.C., center-right think tank.”

It’s hard to picture where those acres would not be, given that …

“Only a small portion of U.S. government-owned land is near cities with housing shortages. About 47 million acres, or 7.3% of all federal land, falls within metropolitan areas that need more homes, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of government land maps and housing-shortage data from the National Association of Realtors.

In a few cases, local housing shortages overlap with an abundance of federal land in the area, such as Salt Lake City and Las Vegas.  This policy could make a big difference for those housing markets.”

But what about Seattle, Portland, Spokane and … Missoula.  The prices in many northwestern national forest-adjacent cities (and towns) indicate a housing shortage in these places.  This article says the Secretaries want “affordable” housing, but it’s hard to imagine what kind of constraints that would put on the process – anywhere that has a housing shortage has an affordable housing shortage, and I can’t imagine this federal government adding requirements to local real estate deals to ensure housing affordability.  Given the lack of guardrails being recognized by this Administration, I can  imagine that any community that is interested could be coming into some new real estate.

“HUD will pinpoint where housing needs are most pressing,” and Interior “will identify locations that can support homes while carefully considering environmental impact and land-use restrictions,” the agencies’ secretaries wrote in the Journal’s opinion piece.

So they say.  Will they consider the effects on national forest management of expanding the WUI?  Land management plans should have identified lands suitable for disposal (or maybe a process for doing that) – would this matter?  (Maybe someone with a WSJ subscription can pry out some more details about what these Secretaries have in mind.)

Wildfires Can Be Bad for Endangered Species And They Shoot Squirrels Don’t They?

I thought it might be worth taking a look at the study Greg Walcher (former Colorado DNR director among other things) he refers to in a post today.

In 2017 the Arizona Game and Fish Department estimated that there were only 252 Mount Graham red squirrels left. They only inhabited a few hundred acres in the 10,000-foot Pinaleño Mountains, not equipped to survive the heat of the surrounding deserts. Then, a lightning strike started a 48,000-acre fire in that section of the Coronado National Forest, incinerating all but 35 of the Mount Graham squirrels in existence. Federal and state wildlife officials thought the species faced likely extinction.

It is a more common story than you might think. The Journal Science published a study in 2020 called “Fire and biodiversity in the Anthropocene,” analyzing the danger of wildfires to threatened and endangered species. Across nine taxonomic groups, the study found that “at least 1,071 species are categorized as threatened by an increase in fire frequency or intensity…” That included 16 percent of all endangered mammals, nearly 20 percent of listed birds, and almost a third of non-flowering plants such as evergreen trees.

Recent wildfires in California reportedly pushed dozens of species to the brink of extinction, utterly devastating miles of habitat that will take decades to recover. Less widely reported was how many endangered birds and animals were burned in those fires (nobody really wants to see that on TV), but as the study euphemistically concluded, “wildlife often cannot adapt quickly enough to escape rapid changes in fire patterns.”

In Colorado we know the extreme fire seasons of 2002 and 2020 destroyed much of the habitat for the Mexican spotted owl, and the Hayman Fire alone destroyed over half the known habitat of a rare yellow butterfly called the Pawnee montane skipper. In California the same is now said of the mountain yellow-legged frog and the Amargosa vole, both of which are now nearing extinction. Burning most of them alive certainly didn’t help.

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One bit of good news: contrary to the dire predictions, there are more than 200 Mount Graham red squirrels again, apparently more adaptable than the “experts” expected.

I found the study which is a synthesis paper,  it seems to have a paywall, so I can’t tell how much work went into it.

Our synthesis shows that interactions with anthropogenic drivers such as global climate change, land use, and biotic invasions are transforming fire activity and its impacts on biodiversity. More than 4400 terrestrial and freshwater species from a wide range of taxa and habitats face threats associated with modified fire regimes. Many species are threatened by an increase in fire frequency or intensity, but exclusion of fire in ecosystems that need it can also be harmful. The prominent role of human activity in shaping global ecosystems is the hallmark of the Anthropocene and sets the context in which models and actions must be developed. Advances in predictive modeling deliver new opportunities to couple fire and biodiversity data and to link them with forecasts of multiple drivers including drought, invasive plants, and urban growth. Making these connections also provides an opportunity for new actions that could revolutionize how society manages fire. Emerging actions include reintroduction of mammals that reduce fuels, green fire breaks comprising low-flammability plants, strategically letting wildfires burn under the right conditions, managed evolution of populations aided by new genomics tools, and deployment of rapid response teams to protect biodiversity assets. Indigenous fire stewardship and reinstatement of cultural burning in a modern context will enhance biodiversity and human well-being in many regions of the world. At the same time, international efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions are crucial to reduce the risk of extreme fire events that contribute to declines in biodiversity.

Seems to me that targeted fire suppression to protect species habitat  is quite  valuable, although it doesn’t seem to be on this list. Also the 35 left and back to 200 story.

Here’s what the USFWS is doing to help the Mt. Graham Red Squirrel (known as MGRS), including various silvicultural manipulations of interest, pheromones, cone collection, fuel treatment projects, as well as supplemental feeding and shooting Abert squirrels to decrease competition.  Perhaps it’s less controversial than the PNW owl shooting for various reasons? Birds vs. squirrels have different advocates? Numbers and dollars involved?  What do the Arizonans out there think?

Post- St. Patrick’s Day FS News Roundup

 

Illlegal pot grows were a big thing on the Chic- Nic about 10 years or so ago, I wonder if they still are? See new item #4.

(1) We still don’t have a of the USDA AARP; it would be interesting to get Interior’s as well, at least the parts that refer to the FS and BLM.   We could FOIA them, and will if we can’t get it. But we are still waiting on FOIAs from last year, so.. Here’s a link to what’s supposed to be in them. Below is an excerpt.

  1. II. Principles to Inform ARRPs
    ARRPs should seek to achieve the following:
    1. Better service for the American people;2
    2. Increased productivity;
    3. A significant reduction in the number of full-time equivalent (FTE) positions by
    eliminating positions that are not required;
    4. A reduced real property footprint; and
    5. Reduced budget topline.
    Pursuant to the President’s direction, agencies should focus on the maximum elimination
    of functions that are not statutorily mandated while driving the highest-quality, most efficient
    delivery of their statutorily-required functions.
    Agencies should also seek to consolidate areas of the agency organization chart that are
    duplicative; consolidate management layers where unnecessary layers exist; seek reductions in
    components and positions that are non-critical; implement technological solutions that automate
    routine tasks while enabling staff to focus on higher-value activities; close and/or consolidate
    regional field offices to the extent consistent with efficient service delivery; and maximally reduce
    the use of outside consultants and contractors. When taking these actions, agencies should align
    closures and/or relocation of bureaus and offices with agency return-to-office actions to avoid
    multiple relocation benefit costs for individual employees.
    Agencies should review their statutory authority and ensure that their plans and actions are
    consistent with such authority.

(2) The Hotshot Wakeup had a podcast out yesterday on the Oklahoma fires, more resignations, and some discussions he had with people at the Forest Service  Now, we don’t know that that what those folks said is the the case, because he heard from some “sources not allowed to speak on record.” At the same time, many traditional outlets use the same kind of sources including our main other outlet, E&E News.  A brief summary: RF’s taking deferred resignation, there were plans floated to get rid of Regions before new Admin due to budget crisis, 9 Regions brought down to 3, budget saving, budget is in so much trouble- how dire it was.  When THW asked about where the bucks went, a source said that  BIL and IRA given billions give the bucks to NGOs, they were asked to get the money out ASAP, slush fund recycled into political campaigns, organizations friendly to those in power at the time.  Negligence or on purpose, the source’s  opinion was that it was on purpose, and the new Admin   ” inherited a budgetary nightmare”.

How could we know what the truth is?  Someone from relatively high in the food chain would have to tell us, and they are  unlikely to do so; either they’re still working or signing agreements about what not to talk about.  Certainly there was an unusual  cone of silence about the Keystone Agreements that Dave Mertz and I could not penetrate completely.  We did not receive answers from the folks administering the program, and many of my usual sources stopped talking to me entirely when I brought up the subject.  At the same time,  giving funding to your friends is part of being in an Admin.. but it’s the recycling to political campaigns that seems unlikely or unusual.  At the same time, people delving into the National Baptist/Coconino project wondered about some of the organizations skimming bucks in the name of equity (check out the comments and links to organizations). We only heard about the NBC  grant via a whistleblower who was concerned about the religious connection; how many more of these (non- Keystones) are out there?  How could we even find out where these apparently extra layers of overhead would ultimately go?

(3). Instead of an all-employees meeting for Forest Service employees, Chief Schultz had a “Chat with the Chief” video, in which he answered questions from specific employees. I think they missed the historical boat on this video by not mentioning Chief Silcox, but it didn’t affect the main point, that the Chief was new to the agency and that that is unusual.  I don’t think the format works, as the length makes it superficial for anything worth diving into.  Plus, I’m sure that the District Ranger is worth getting to know, but the time constraints mean that any hints of interestingness tend to get squeezed out.  On the other hand, everyone (non-employees) can watch it, so that part is good.   On the third hand, before current technologies we employees never had ‘all employees’ meetings” and we never missed them, so there’s that.  Rumor has it that the Chief wanted to do a deeper dive, but “everyone has a boss.”

(4)  We’ve all heard about grants being held up (but some are not, this seems confusing) but this E&E story was about a grant to the FS that the FS decided not to take. The title of the E&E News story was:

 Forest Service halts grant for cleaning up illegal Calif. cannabis operations

The $989,400 grant was intended for the removal of waste and of infrastructure illegally diverting water in 10 counties in Northern California. It also was intended to include “development of a training program to formalize reclamation protocols to meet USFS and BLM safety standards” in order to increase the number of nonprofit groups around the state qualified to remove trespass grows from public lands.

CDFW told POLITICO that none of the activities outlined in the project plan had yet been conducted by the USFS, and the funds will be reallocated to other grant programs.
In the subcommittee hearing last week, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department Lt. Larry Lopez told lawmakers that illegal pesticides like carbofuran smuggled in for use on unlicensed cannabis grows were having a terrible impact on California’s public lands.
“This poses a severe public health threat and contributes to the environment degradation,”

I don’t know, but it sounds like it might be dangerous. Carbofuran is really bad stuff… and maybe the growers would return while non-profit groups are attempting to remediate  trespass grows? Sounds scary.

The move comes in the wake of the Trump administration’s layoffs at federal agencies — including USDA (which oversees the USFS) and the Department of the Interior (which oversees BLM) — and frozen federal grant projects. It also comes as Congress considers legislation that would increase federal funding to do cleanup of illicit cannabis grows on federal lands around the country. The bill had a hearing in the House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands last week.

Sadly, both those links go to Politico Pro instead of the hearing or legislation, so I had to try to find it..

It might be this bill (from 2023)..

This bill will:

  • Authorize $250 million over five years for the Forest Service to use Superfund toxic waste remediation authorities to address environmental damages caused by the release of banned pesticides on federal lands for cannabis cultivation; and
  • Raise the criminal penalties for using banned pesticides in illegal cannabis cultivation to a maximum of 20 years in prison and $250,000 in criminal fines to establish parity with the criminal penalties for smuggling banned pesticides into the U.S. The U.S. Sentencing Commission would then be required to review and update its sentencing guidelines for these crimes.

The idea for the bill came from a series of investigative stories by San Diego journalist J.W. August published in the Times of San Diego.

In 2019, the San Diego-based Border Pesticide Initiative was formed with members of the Department of Justice, Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Homeland Security, California Department of Toxic Substances Control, and the City Attorney’s Office. In 2021, the group announced it had prosecuted over 50 defendants and seized over 1,000 containers of illegal pesticides.

Reps. Peters and LaMalfa first introduced this bill in October 2022.

It made me wonder how much of a problem this is outside of California. I remember there were issues in Colorado as well.

Co-Stewardship is Great, Say Conservation Groups.. Except When We Disagree With Tribes

Please be patient as you follow me down this bunny trail.

It started with our discussion which seems to have been in an Oregonian letter by Ingalsbee and Wheeler mentioned  by Steve Wilent in a comment.

The inclusion of tribal co-stewardship and Indigenous knowledge represents a profound change that goes beyond undoing past wrongs to Indigenous peoples — it will help restore species, habitats and landscape diversity. But these benefits are under threat. The Trump administration now threatens to subvert the progressive prospects of the Northwest Forest amendment by its effort to banish the words “diversity” and “inclusion.”

1) Certainly the Oregonian is not The Smokey Wire, but it probably doesn’t matter what the “generic Trump Admin” says about abstractions.. what probably matters is what the new Chief,  and the Secs of Int and Ag think about the topic, specifically, co-stewardship and co-management. We’ve discussed those before in detail last year, riffing on a Mother Jones story.

but 2) I know people make the claim that co-stewardship will “help restore” those thing; but co-stewardship, again, is kind of a generic abstraction.  I’m sure that the FACA recommending folks for the Northwest Forest Plan would be more specific, because I have much respect for them, and perhaps someone else can look it up or knows offhand what page it’s on..

But folks keep making that claim,  like this generic statement (in bold) by a professor at the Yale School of the Environment:

Gonzales-Rogers is hopeful that, exponentially, these choices will compound, “and may even have a nexus to say something like landback” a reference to a movement that is not only rooted in a mass return of land to Indigenous nations and peoples, but also tribes having sovereignty to steward the land that was taken from them.

Gonzales-Rogers thinks the two terms have not been very well-defined over the years, but said co-stewardship agreements might be a good way to start building to co-management.

And the more tribes have autonomy over their ancestral lands, the better it is for conservation goals. According to a recent study, equal partnerships between tribes and governments are the best way to protect public lands — the more tribal autonomy, the better the land is taken care of.

This seems like an odd generic statement to make. It’s one of those statements that I think people keep saying because they operate at the abstraction level, and not at the observational level. I’ve run into those kinds of statements a few times in my career, and in my experience it can be an academic/media echo chamber.  And it seems that  the folks with the observations are never brought into the conversation, nor is there an opportunity to have the discussion. It’s kind of like a policy mantra.

Then there was our post earlier this year on George Wuerther’s idea of the “Indian Iron Curtain” and his review of Native Alaskan support for energy projects. In fact, if you scroll down on the right, there are categories for posts, and if you look on Tribes you’ll see that we’ve had many posts on this topic.

People in Tribes are ultimately people. And people disagree with each other. Like other folks, they handle decisions that have to be made jointly via some kind of governmental organization. So folks who make claims that “autonomy is the best way to protect public lands” have a great deal of confidence not only in the philosophies of individual Tribal members, but of the ability of Tribal governments to act in the way that some individuals would define as “conservation.”

Let’s look at some observations of where conservation organizations and Tribes apparently do not agree. Some have argued that the definition of “conservation” is a Euro-American concept, so that is a bit of a philosophical issue, but still relevant.

There is the Ute support of the litigated oil train, which Colorado is against.
The Navajo did a deal with Energy Resources allowing uranium access (but not all Navajos agreed with their government, duh, see above).
The Navajo did not agree with the buffer zone around Chaco Canyon (apparently Pueblo and Navajo did not agree).

Conservation groups were against the Izembeck Road (apparently because doing what the King Cove people want would “set a dangerous precedent by undermining conservation laws.”

In our world,

The Kalispels supported the Sxwuytn-Kanisksu Connections Trail Project which was litigated by AWR.

And the Black Ram project, poster child of the “Climate Forest Campaign”, the project supported by the Kootenai.

“The Tribe supports the Black Ram project, because it protects our Ktunaxa resources, furthers restoration of Ktunaxa Territory forests and was developed through our government-to-government relationship with the United States Forest Service,” said Gary Aitken, Jr., Vice-Chairman, Kootenai Tribe of Idaho.

But apparently not by the below groups, who support the Climate Forest Campaign (there are more, but I think everyone from Earthjustice to FUSEE (the very Ingalbee of the Oregonion op-ed) gets the point across.  Sometimes when some folks are for “co-stewardship” they seem to think that means.. ?unless the Tribes want to do something we don’t support.”

Some organizations who consider themselves “conservation organizations” are not in favor of cutting trees;  for some, pretty much not on private, state, nor federal land, and yet many Tribes have forest management programs, and some have their own sawmills.

In fact, there is an active Intertribal Timber Council.

It seems that another op-ed could be written on how by deferring to the wishes of some environmental groups (aka “conservation organizations”) the Biden Admin went against the will of Tribes as evidenced by their Tribal Governments.  In fact, I attended a webinar early in the Biden Admin on oil and gas policies and the two Tribal organizations (Native Alaskans and that spoke both preferred “all of the above.”

 

 

 

Comment Reminders: Three Doors of Charitable Speech, Generalizing About Groups, and Sticking to the Topic

Gentle reminder:

When commenting, please consider the three doors that charitable speech must pass through. The gatekeeper at the door asks, “Is it true?” The second gatekeeper asks, “Is it helpful?” The third gatekeeper asks, “Is it kind?” (adapted from the writings of Krishnamurti by James Martin on p. 169 of his book “Between Heaven and Mirth.)

There are many new people here so, to reiterate:

Here we don’t make broad claims about groups of people.  We stick to our own experience, and use the word “some” a lot. Like “some” FS employees do this or that, or some political operatives from X party, or…  The more specific your claim is, the better we understand.  This is not the place to decry generic evils of generic groups.

Also here we stick to the topic.  Any Admin or Congress may, and will, do all kinds of things we don’t agree with. But we don’t switch from the topic at hand to something else.

Jon’s post on the GSA leases is an excellent example.  He picked a topic and related it to the FS and BLM.

I’ve not approved some comments recently because they veered off topic or made unnecessary generalizations about groups.  If you remove those sentences they will be approved.

For new people, I will give you a chance and point out the problems the first or first few times.

 

More on FEMA and Hermit’s Peak Calf Canyon, With a Side Visit to California Fuelbreaks: Joe Reddan

Joe Reddan requested that his Comment in response to Jonn Thomas regarding the politicized FEMA response to the 2022 Hermit’s Peak /Calf Canyon Fire be posted. It couldn’t be inserted in the Comment section because of featuring a photograph: https://forestpolicypub.com/2025/03/07/jim-petersen-and-evergreen-on-usfs-chief-tom-schultz/comment-page-1/#comment-534102

Joe worked for the USFS for 37 years, with six as District Ranger for the Pecos/Las Vegas Ranger District where the Hermit’s Peak/Calf Canyon Fire took place. He is currently Chief Forester and consultant for Flexilis Forestry, LLC, with offices in Colorado and California

Signing of the Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) for $75 million “earmarked” to Sierra Pacific Industries (SPI) for “shaded fuel breaks in the Pacific Regions.” L-R California Representative Doug LaMalfa; former USFS Chief Randy Moore, US Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins, and SPI Chair and Chief Financial Officer Mark Emmerson. Note fuel break poster in the background. February 27, 2025 photo courtesy Flicker, USDA.

 

John Thomas, Jr.: Good points on the Moon Light Fire! Continuing our dialogue, here is a summary of the current Continuing Resolution (CR) forking out money to FEMA under the Hermits Peak Calf Canyon Wildfire Recovery Act and $75 million to Sierra Pacific Industries for fuel breaks.

Note from Sharon, as of earlier today this is the Dec. 21, 2024 CR, not today’s (out of Senate March 14, 2025) CR

American Relief Act Resolution (November 2024 – March 14,  2025) Continuing Resolution (CR) (PL 118-58)

FEMA:

$1,500,000 supplemental to the Hermits Peak/Calf Canyon Fire Restitution, on top of $4 billion appropriated in the Ukraine Supplemental of 2022, Division G.

 

FOREST SERVICE

Forest Service Operations:                     $68,100,000

Forest and Rangeland Research:            $26,000,000

State, Private & Tribal Forestry:            $208,000,000*

 

* includes Forest Health Protection (FHP) of  $14,000,000 primarily in Maine, for Eastern Spruce Budworm control.

 

NATIONAL FOREST SYSTEM           $2,523,000,000*

 

*includes $2,448,000,000 mitigation of wildfires, hurricanes, and other disasters for the years of 2022, 2023, and 2024, of which $75,000,000 is for “shaded fuel breaks in the Pacific Regions.”

 

Authority: Recruit and directly appoint personnel into the competitive service not withstanding all of the personnel laws until September 20, 2029.

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For those who wondered how the FS could fund the shaded fuel breaks when it couldn’t hire back temporaries, this explains that the funding was a specific earmark.