Accurate, Transparent Fuel Accomplishment Reporting- What’s in the Fix our Forests Act

Andy brought up the long-term problematic question of fuels reporting, the old double-counting question and so on.  I thought I’d post what’s in FOFA as I think that will take care of it. Perhaps this is the first entry in the Peoples’ Database, provided by Congress, who like us, would like to see where the bucks are going. I’m curious as to what folks think of this approach. Any formatting issues are mine, if you want the original formatting check out Sec.302 of FOFA.

It kind of makes me wonder why Int and Ag didn’t self-organize to do something like this on their own.  Rather than moving the FS to Interior, I think much more doable would be to identify the top 20 interdepartmental annoyances and coordinate them, similar to what the Admin is doing in wildfire.

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EC. 302. Accurate hazardous fuels reduction reports.

14 thoughts on “Accurate, Transparent Fuel Accomplishment Reporting- What’s in the Fix our Forests Act”

  1. Sharon said:

    “It kind of makes me wonder why Int and Ag didn’t self-organize to do something like this on their own.”

    I’m guessing the answer is money. The agencies tend to resist gathering new data, or gathering itin different ways, unless they have a very clear and direct need for it. This is because these activities cost money that the agencies would have to shift from other activities, which in turn could alienate the citizens who benefit from those activities (and therefore, at least potentially, their congressional representatives). This is also why the agencies tend not to ask for additional funds to carry out such activities; they believe (reasonably, in my view) that Congress might simply take that money from programs and acitivities that are higher agency priorities.

    Note the language of subsection (e). This is probably there at the agencies’ request, so they can say to Congress “sure we’ll be happy to do this if you provide the funding,” while also being able to say to any aggrieved members of the public whose favorite programs are cut “blame the Hill, not us.”

    It will be interesting to see if Congress does in fact fund these activities. This data, properly assembled, could go a long way toward overcoming OMB’s traditional objections to authorizing agency budget requests for increased hazardous fuel reduction funding.

    Sharon also said:

    “Rather than moving the FS to Interior, I think much more doable would be to identify the top 20 interdepartmental annoyances and coordinate them, similar to what the Admin is doing in wildfire.”

    Couldn’t agree more!

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  2. You might also want to share a link to the House version of the bill (HR 471), as there are some nuanced differences between the two bills.

    One difference that just out is under Requirements Sec. 2, B(iii)(II) – the Senate version is “through a planned hazardous fuels reduction project”. The House version is more broad “through a planned project:”.

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  3. How do you report out on “the effectiveness of the hazardous fuels reduction activities on reducing the risk of wildfire.”

    If no wildfire passes through the treatment area, does that mean it treatment was effective!? If an extreme weather event creates a extreme fire situation and the fire torches out the treatment area, does that mean it was ineffective? How many years following treatment must the FS assess for ‘effectiveness’, until the next treatment, 5 years, 10 years, 1 year?

    I think this needs to be removed from both versions of the bill. The evaluation of this metric is too subjective and ambiguous.

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    • A, I’m glad you brought this up. I think there’s a great deal of confusion about what Congress and others are funding in terms of “treatment evaluation of success and feedback to the fuels community,” vs. simply “telling Congress what agencies did with the funds on the ground.”

      As far as I can tell, Congress is already funding SWERI in the BIL via the TWIG project https://cfri.colostate.edu/2024/07/24/sweri-reshape-project/
      “The Southwest Ecological Restoration Institutes (SWERI) were identified in the BIL to undertake a national wildfire and treatment effectiveness mapping and assessment project. Policymakers, land management agencies and the research community identified the following needs:

      (1) To compile and display existing information on fuels treatment projects and wildfires at the national level.
      (2) To coordinate and facilitate the use of these data for assessing planning and monitoring fuel treatment interactions with wildfires across boundaries.
      (3) To analyze and report on fuel treatment effects.
      https://reshapewildfire.org/twig/layers”

      I agree that if the point of agency reporting is to tell Congress what it did with the bucks, anything more abstractifying, calculational, and subjective just muddies the water.

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    • This is precisely the issue that OMB hones in on every fiscal year. It is why administrations of both parties routinely underfund (imho) fuel reduction activities. In the aggregate, a dollar spent on fuel reduction might well yield $10 in avoided costs. But the specific treatments that yield most of those benefits cannot be known in advance, so OMB throttles the funding requests for those activities. The federal budget development process is set up to be penny wise and pound foolish, and nowhere is this more apparent than in fire management.

      I yield to none in my criticism of the current Congress. But this issue has much deeper roots.

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  4. “methods to distinguish which acres are located within the wildland-urban interface”
    I’m kind of puzzled that they don’t seem to know where the WUI is. Such a fundamental land management decision that affects future projects should already be Identified and should be in forest plans, ideally based on standardized criteria. But dream on.

    I’m also curious about how incentives for management would change if they can no longer count each treatment – will they deprioritize burning areas they’ve thinned, which I’ve understood is important for the thinning to be effective.

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    • That’s a very interesting question .. is there a standard def for WUI? I think there was one in HFRA maybe.. Is it mapped? How does it show up in Forest Plans?

      I would think they couldn’t count acres as accomplished unless the burning was done, which makes sense as if fuels are laying around you just have the same fuel redistributed and possibly drier

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  5. Fri9n HFRA 2003:
    (16) WILDLAND-URBAN INTERFACE.—The term ‘‘wildland- urban interface’’ means— (A) an area within or adjacent to an at-risk community that is identified in recommendations to the Secretary in a community wildfire protection plan; or (B) in the case of any area for which a community wildfire protection plan is not in effect— (i) an area extending 1⁄2-mile from the boundary of an at-risk community; (ii) an area within 11⁄2 miles of the boundary of an at-risk community, including any land that— (I) has a sustained steep slope that creates the potential for wildfire behavior endangering the at-risk community; (II) has a geographic feature that aids in creating an effective fire break, such as a road or ridge top; or (III) is in condition class 3, as documented by the Secretary in the project-specific environmental analysis; and (iii) an area that is adjacent to an evacuation route for an at-risk community that the Secretary determines, in cooperation with the at-risk community, requires hazardous fuel reduction to provide safer evacuation from the at-risk community.

    Since that 2003, there have been lots of different defintions used for WUI. An example is the NIST table: https://www.nist.gov/el/fire-research-division-73300/resources/hazard-mitigation-methodology-hmm.
    To get everyone on the same page, our take on the Forest was to use WUI boundaries designated in each of our County CWPPs. The 3,000 acre CE in the HFRA definitely encouraged liberal use of the definition for everyone involved.
    The other consdiration now is that the increaed frequency of larger and more robust fire behavior has made some of the older WUI boundaries challenging.

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    • Thanks, Andy! I had a vague memory of HFRA, that’s what we used in the discussions during Colorado Roadless. And folks haven’t necessarily kept up their CWPPs.. and like you said, different fire behavior would affect what people put in their CWPPs if they updated them.
      I had forgotten that HFRA had evacuation routes included. I have a friend who works on evacuation routes (on mostly private land0 and our CDOT doesn’t seem to think this is their bailiwick.
      At least in Colorado, some places seem to have done minimalist CWPPs to access grant funds and then never kept them up.
      It’s interesting how much the current dialogue is similar to HFRA.

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    • A recent draft CWPP that I reviewed defined WUI as ” and area where structures and other human development meets or intermingles with wildland or vegetative fuels” citing the International Wildland Urban Interface code of 2021 and uses 1/2 mile, 1 mile and 3 mile buffers.

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      • One discussion we had during Colorado Roadless had to do with the concentration of structures and kind of structures necessary to produce a WUI designation… one cabin? five houses? a powerline? IF it’s decided locally it seems random to some; if decided nationally it would be subject to national political forces and possibly not make sense anywhere. And so it goes..

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    • Thanks for providing that. HFRA defines WUI for the purpose of expedited review based on objectives to reduce fire risk, which seems like that same idea being pursued in FOFA. So I’ll just repeat myself: “Such a fundamental land management decision that affects future projects should already be Identified and should be in forest plans, ideally based on (these) standardized criteria.” If someone wants to use a different definition for a different purpose, they should use a different term.

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