Teakettle Burn Project- Did a Lack of Oversight Contribute? What Will Be the Oversight Structure of a Reorganized Forest Service?

Now that the end of the shutdown appears to be within our sight, I thought I’d post about a question that recent news stories have brought up which seems like a critical question as the Forest Service reorganization is concerned. To that end, I’ll posit that “not every forest supervisor does everything to please everyone all the time.” And ask the question “in the new organization, where should complaints go above the Forest level?”

Once a group is concerned, after sharing their concerns with the Forest Supervisor, if they continue to have issues, to whom, or through what process do they go? Let’s review how things have been working with the current Regional structure.  In my relatively brief time (seven years) in an RO:

  •  I saw the RF and staff working with forests so that their issues did not “escape containment”: from my seat that looked like folks with concerns who had some kind of leverage, mostly access to politicians, I would guess, who brought them to the attention of the RF or DRFs.
  • I saw the RF overrule a Forest Supe on a decision (to expand a ski area)
  • Indeed, I was told that a good Director has “ears on the ground” to forests so that action could be taken before things got out of hand.  It seemed to me like a “spy network” at the time, but I now see that it’s extremely useful as an early warning system.
  • I saw an RF remove a Forest Supe who had more or less of a mutiny (or key staff who didn’t want her) on her hands.. deserved or undeserved, I never figured out.
  • I saw a settlement agreement with one Forest that set a case law-ish standard for more analysis for the rest of the FS.. tried to get some pushback from the WO (recreation in this case) but they didn’t want to get involved.
  • WO Triangulation? When I worked in NEPA in the WO, one forest seemed to be engaging in what I would call “CE abuse” which again could have led to a court case and had negative repercussions for everyone else.  The Regional NEPA staff brought this to the RF’s attention, but the RF chose not to tell the Supe not to do it (I guess based on different Regional cultures, there are so many chits an RF has per Supe?) so we (WO) had to step in.  This worked for the RF perhaps because he could get the desirable result without using his own points (“the WO is telling us what to do.”).

I hope that both internal and external folks share their stories of what has worked and has not worked in terms of “taking it to the next level” above the Forest Supe.

Some recent stories like this one on the Garnet Fire and the damage to the  Teakettle Experimental Forest reminded me of this:

The project appeared to be on the agency’s fast track. With full funding from Newsom, the Forest Service promised to get the burn done by September of 2024, reducing the risk of the trees burning in a mega fire by an estimated 80%. To complete the burn as easily as possible, they exempted themselves from all the pesky red tape — no environmental review was needed to get the so-called “good fire” on the ground.

But fall 2024 came and went, and the burn didn’t get done. When the Garnet Fire started in August, the scientists’ worst fears about Teakettle proved correct.

Two months later, the scientists who were part of the stalled project say that the worst of the devastation caused by the Garnet Fire could have been prevented had the Forest Service not found ways to drag its feet every step of the way with the Teakettle burn project. Many pin the blame on the Forest Service supervisor Dean Gould for “slow-rolling” the project despite hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent to hold his staff’s hand on nearly every planning detail of the project.

“We got slow-rolled on everything,” said Matt Hurteau, director of the Center for Fire Resilient Ecosystems and Society at the University of New Mexico and project leader for the Teakettle Project.

“The National Forest Service leaders put in charge of these local ranger districts have no urgency to their actions. They’re not moving at a pace that’s going to result in forests that are resilient to these big wildfire events.”

Scott Stephens, a UC Berkeley professor of Fire Science, said the Teakettle project points to deep dysfunction within the Forest Service, which has failed to implement the forest treatments since the 2020 Creek Fire that are necessary to stave off the collapse of the Sierra Nevada ecosystem in the coming years.

“It really was a lack of engagement from the local unit,” said Stephens on why the Teakettle project didn’t get done. “I don’t know what else to say about it.”

Friedman’s Law is that there are at least two sides to each story.  We would need to interview the FS folks to get their side.  But we can’t get their side because.. there doesn’t seem to be a structure to do that.  Or perhaps we will hear once public affairs folks come back from furlough.  How do some forests get things done (like the Stanislaus, the next Forest north?) and others not?

I understand that the scientists are frustrated.  And I would bet that many folks have different angles on the story.  My point is that there needs to be consideration of an above Forest process to resolve disputes before they “escape containment.”

But given that we did have RFs (an acting one) in this case, I wonder whether the scientists and others took their concerns up the line and what the result was.  It’s always interesting to me that when things go wrong on fires, there is a lessons learned but in other parts of the FS not so much.  Or it’s not public?  When should an organization just march on, and when should they stop and take stock?  And why not make those lessons learned publicly available?

Any new structures or organizations, it seems to me, need some kind of process for this kind of oversight and accountability.

4 thoughts on “Teakettle Burn Project- Did a Lack of Oversight Contribute? What Will Be the Oversight Structure of a Reorganized Forest Service?”

  1. It would be good to get both sides of a story. We did have to do NEPA and ESA consultation and 106 compliance for NHPA.

    We met with the scientists regularly. Our fire folks let them know you couldnt burn mid slope and they reconfigured the project. We worked with partners that the scientists had brought in. Please make sure you have all sides of the story.

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  2. The Sierra NF has not had an easy time the past 10 years with fire and insects. There are too many priorities for too few staff to focus. However, folks I have spoken with who did work on the project suggested to me that the only reason it was happening at all was that individuals from outside the forest unit were pressuring the forest to do it and found the money to get it done. It was never a priority for the forest. I was told others made it a priority for them and for that reason it did not move as fast as it might have if the forest had had a project champion.

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  3. I’m familiar with the Teakettle area and project. I read Matt Hurteau’s Eulogy paper. Unfortunately that write-up is full of falsehoods and is generally misleading and un-professional. Teakettle Experimental Forest: designated in 1938, 3200 acres overseen and managed by the Pacific Southwest Research Station USDA, beginning around 1995 research focused on forest thinning and prescribed fire. Despite this experimental forest area being managed by research scientists, who have numerous funding sources available to them, they sadly never actually managed their 3200 acre plot of land against the threat of wildfire. About 170 acres of planned research prescribed fire had been accomplished in Teakettle as of 2019. Over a million acres have burned in over 23 major wildfires (per IFTDSS website) since 1995 within the Sierra NF and areas immediate adjacent in Yosemite and Kings Canyon (this doesn’t include adjacent State land or the Inyo and Stanislaus National Forests). A major tree mortality forest die-off event (look that up about how many acres affected and how many trees died and fell to the ground adding to hazard fuel loads) started in 2014 and was centered in the Sierra NF just a couple of miles from Teakettle. The Sierra National Forest has been over whelmed. Prescribed fire needs have been carefully analyzed and prioritized (silviculture, WUI, infrastructure etc) resulting in sorely needed prescribed fire implementation proposed for decades into the future. Anyone familiar with the Sierra NF (as these researchers are) or in reality the Sierra Nevada ecosystem as a whole should know this.
    Matt Hurteau mishandled a proposed 870 acre Rx burn project in 2019 by not following established guidelines for notifying the Forest Service (Forest Service heard about his proposed project haphazardly through contractors a few months before Matt hoped to have it burned), presenting a project foot print that could not have prescribed fire feasibly applied to it (this showed a shocking lack of knowledge of basic prescribed fire knowledge and awareness), a confusion about who actually will implement the prescribed burn and numerous other factors affecting his proposed project. Sierra NF then proposed a much larger acre burn (while clearly stating that they had no funding or personnel to take on a project like this) that was considered the only way to get the 870 acre plot originally planned done. This is where the 3000+ acre proposed burn idea came from, not from any of the researchers. The Sierra NF had a carefully planned 5 year work schedule to meet Rx burning needs including: silviculture site prep (planting requires ordering trees from nurseries years in advance), WUI, infrastructure (Hydro-electric is not to be impacted) and numerous other inputs which again the researchers should be aware of. That Matt Hurteau fully expected a large 870 acre burn to be accomplished with a 120 day lead time is as shocking as it is ignorant and insulting. Whatever talk there is of the Forest Service ignoring NEPA requirements, promising to do an unplanned/sudden 3000+ acre research burn in lieu of every other years-ahead planned action(s), dragging their feet (same staff that does prescribed burning has been fighting the large fires listed above) or that any one individual is responsible for a century plus of management decisions is silly, grossly ignorant or has an agenda behind it.
    Contact me if you’re interested in learning more. FM

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