Joe submitted this as a comment, but I thought it was worthy of its own post. Joe is a guest, so please remember our guidelines. Whatever is in Project 2025 seems to be the druthers of the chosen authors or their delegatees. Later we’ll look at the Interior section and be able to compare. When you think about it, Project 2025 is often evoked as a Uniquely Bad Thing, but if you look under the hood (as with so many other documents!) there are a variety of items, which individually we could agree or disagree with. It seems to depend on who was selected to author that particular section and their unique philosophies, history and points of irritation. People can wield the term “Project 2025” as a kind of apotropaic magic, but I think it’s worth discussing the relevant individual elements.
Back to Joe:
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Origins of the Mandate
The Heritage Foundation’s Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise was the organization’s attempt to provide reforms to the whole of the federal government for a new administration—or a retained one—in 2024. Heritage has been providing this service for presidential election years since 1979, predictably offering its agenda to both parties, though only Republicans have employed it over the years.
We know this because we are the two authors of “Reform Forest Service Wildfire Management,” as it appears on Page 308 in Section 3: The General Welfare, #10, The Department of Agriculture, edited by Daren Bakst. My vast network of contacts in Washington led to an invitation in late 2023 to contribute to the document, and what followed was a rigorous process of distilling decades of frustration and analysis into a constrained format.
It was not at all clear at the time that President Trump would win. Along with perhaps every other organization and department, people across the policy landscape were preparing for the transition to whoever came next by documenting aspirational changes and improvements to policies and practices across the government. Our effort was, as far as we knew, a forlorn hope—a chance to register our own and a much broader disaffection with Forest Service management of our shared natural resources in the first quarter of the new century.
Why Fire?
Editor Bakst was allotted approximately twenty pages to succinctly characterize the sprawling Department of Agriculture, in which “nutrition assistance” transfer payment programs account for 79 percent ($161 billion) of all department expenditures, excluding the Forest Service. He was further allocated roughly six and a half pages for references. With a constrained budget of 700 words to characterize the most urgent reform for the Forest Service, we chose the most divergent practice and program: FIRE.
The key point of contention was the dramatic increase in the use of wildfire—or managed fire—as the agency’s principal natural resource management tool following three decades of increasingly onerous lawsuit settlements. The net result since 1996, in our opinion, was that the Office of General Counsel abandoned the forest planning process, leaving the Forest Service defenseless and unsupported against the rising tide of increasingly vociferous environmentalist preferences for public land management. Wildfire, however imperfect a tool, became the Forest Service’s last active management tool, one it could apply without any interference—or input—from anyone.
We identified two themes: wildfire policy, specifically the “managed fire” aspect of fire policy since Chief Tom Tidwell signed the Chevron Deference memo in 2009, and the Forest Service’s transition from multiple-use management to the “all fire is good fire” paradigm being introduced throughout the agency to address the backlog of fire in so-called “fire-depleted ecosystems.”
The Law and Its Abandonment
Since the publication in 2014 of the National Cohesive Strategy, which states the vision for this century as “to safely and effectively extinguish fire, when needed; use fire where allowable; manage our natural resources; and as a Nation, live with wildland fire,” the Forest Service has abandoned its congressionally authorized mission to “make provisions for the protection against destruction by fire.” The abandonment of fidelity to the law—the Organic Administration Act of 1897—by the premier conservation agency of the United States in creating, using, exacerbating, and wreaking havoc and destruction in the forested and grassland ecosystems of the Nation identified itself as the primary reform the Forest Service required.
We called for the agency to abandon its outlaw infatuation with pyro-silviculture and return to the basics of sound forest management on its jurisdictional lands. In invoking the mission statement, a clear contrast emerged with the wanton destructive practices of pyro-silviculture, which left both National Forest System lands and adjoining private lands blackened, denuded, and unable to support human requirements for life, liberty, and property. We know of no one who has ever forfeited their life or home to an “escaped timber sale.”
New Mexico and the Catalyst for Reform
Our drafting of “Reform Forest Service Wildfire Management” occurred in 2023, about one year after the nadir of the Forest Service and its arsonist role in the Hermits Peak/Calf Canyon, Cerro Pelado, and Black Fire conflagrations in New Mexico. Spending time on-the-ground and with people in the vast post-fire environment causes an individual to think hard about whether embracing and employing a “stone-age” mentality to “sustain the health, diversity, and productivity of the Nation’s forest and grasslands for present and future generations” is something that should be happening in the twenty-first century.
Frank and I discussed our aspirational outcomes should the opportunity ever arise to see real reform. We wrote our wish list and various thoughts about what could and should happen in the best of all worlds. Our contact at the Foundation was a merciless editor. The end result is the half-page of our thoughts that you find in the Project 2025 document.
What We Did Not Address
We did not address reorganization, the agency’s almost suicidal countenancing of a “resistance” to the Trump administration, the terrified institutional response to COVID, the embrace of work-from-home as a “safety” measure until staff were forced back in early 2025—long after the rest of the world had returned to work—the failure of multiple-use management over forty years, the failure of agency attorneys to back agency decisions rather than settle everything, or the disastrous decisions to “let burn” (wildfire use, managed fire, reintroducing fire, applied wildfire) across millions of acres of the West. All of this deserved scrutiny, but 700 words impose their own discipline.
The Whirlwind
While Project 2025 – Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise was exceptionally limited in scope, the other changes now being implemented at the Forest Service are long overdue and quite deserving. The wholesale abandonment by the Forest Service of bedrock conservation laws and the embrace of destructive, uncontrollable physical forces to manage public natural resources have now reaped the whirlwind of reform.
If the Forest Service would like to take an honest look at how it, and many other departments and agencies, arrived at this appalling point in history, the first clue is the mirror. The opportunity for reform arose, for better or worse, and it did so because the agency’s hubris made it inevitable.
Here is the post in Project 2025 verbatim:
Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise
Reform Forest Service Wildfire Management. The United States Forest Service is one of four federal government land management agencies that administer 606 million acres, or 95 percent of the 640 million acres of surface land area managed by the federal government.115 Located within the USDA, the Forest Service manages the National Forest System, which is comprised of 193 million acres.116 As explained by the USDA, “The USDA Forest Service’s mission is to sustain the health, diversity, and productivity of the nation’s forests and grasslands to meet the needs of present and future generations.”117
The Forest Service should focus on proactive management of the forests and grasslands that does not depend heavily on burning. There should be resilient forests and grasslands in the wake of management actions. Wildfires have become a primary vegetation management regime for national forests and grasslands.118 Recognizing the need for vegetation management, the Forest Service has adopted “pyro-silviculture” using “unplanned” fire,119 such as unplanned human-caused fires, to otherwise accomplish vegetation management.120
The Forest Service should instead be focusing on addressing the precipitous annual amassing of biomass in the national forests that drive the behavior of wildfires. By thinning trees, removing live fuels and deadwood, and taking other preventive steps, the Forest Service can help to minimize the consequences of wildfires.
Increasing timber sales could also play an important role in the effort to change the behavior of wildfire because there would be less biomass. Timber sales and timber harvested in public forests dropped precipitously in the early 1990s and still remain very low. For example, in 1988, the volume of timber sold and harvested by volume was about 11 billion and 12.6 billion board feet (BBF), respectively.121 In 2021, timber sold was 2.8 BBF and timber harvested was 2.4 BBF.
In 2018, President Donald Trump issued Executive Order 13855 to, among other things, promote active management of forests and reduce wildfire risks.122 The executive order stated, “Active management of vegetation is needed to treat these dangerous conditions on Federal lands but is often delayed due to challenges associated with regulatory analysis and current consultation requirements.”123 It further explained the need to reduce regulatory obstacles to fuel reduction in forests created by the National Environmental Policy Act and the Endangered Species Act.124
The next Administration should:
Champion executive action, consistent with law, and proactive legislation to reduce wildfires. This would involve embracing Executive Order 13855, building upon it, and working with lawmakers to promote active management of vegetation, reduce regulatory obstacles to reducing fuel buildup, and increase timber sales.
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Signed: Joe Reddan, Chief Forester Flexilis Forestry LLC & Frank Carroll, Chief Forester Wildfire Pros., authors of Reform the Forest Service, Project 2025 – Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise [our names appear on pages under contributors on pages XXVI (F. Carroll ProfessionaL Forest Management) and page XXIX (J.Reddan Flexilis Forestry LLC)]

